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[wifeofatrucker]

I am tried of companies that expect you to make sure there is fluids in your truck and expect you to pay for them and send the receipt.

Do they think we are stupid, never see the monies again!

Hubbie rule is you don't give me the monies to fill your truck with oil and stuff then your truck runs down. YOUR TRUCK YOUR MONIES not mine.

If he blows a tire he has to pay out of pocket and never see the monies back. Bull. Ride the rims Yeah yeah attitude sucks. But if you put out and not paid back then why be a company driver.

He was told certain tolls they just outright won't pay for. So he goes around them to be told he ran out of route miles. He just laughs and say load delivered what's the problem!

His motto your truck you pay for everything. I only drive maybe that's wrong but it gets him what he needs.

Others do more and get things done.

[CraigNB]

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[Unionjack67]

I think that Tolls are the biggest thing that most every trucker faces.

I've heard that even companies like SWIFT make drivers pay for them out of pocket.

The companies are hoping you'll lose a receipt and lost receipts mean money the company doesn't have to pay.

[wifeofatrucker]

Yes we did call them on it - asked them to give us a check to pay for the oil - answer we don't pay for it you do and we give it back when you send in a receipt. Once you send it in it goes into that black hole, never to surface again.


Hahahaha joke - which when translated you pay for it and you never see the monies back.

[Unionjack67]

Yes we did call them on it - asked them to give us a check to pay for the oil - answer we don't pay for it you do and we give it back when you send in a receipt. Once you send it in it goes into that black hole, never to surface again.


Hahahaha joke - which when translated you pay for it and you never see the monies back.

It's kinda a pain in the arse, but take a photocopy of your receipts before you send them in.

If all else fails, loose a bill of lading a "black hole" until they find your receipts. Enough bills of lading held back from them and it will get thier attention. Unless of course they only pay you for the miles once you turn in the BOL's on them.

I promise you that if you parked the truck and refused to move until the problem is resolved, it would get resolved. I've done that in the past. I've picked up a load and refused to deliver until the company resolved a problem I had complained about for a long time. Of course it's not a good idea until you've exhausted all other options.

[wifeofatrucker]

He tried parking it and not moving and what happened NO MORE JOB

He is now home and looking for another trucking job.

It was not just the pay out of pocket it was also fix the truck and they won't. Company mechanics said nothing wrong. Weird cause when he picked up truck was told get it into the shop soon.

Dispatch just did not care. They should be out there on the road for the same amount of hours they expect drivers to run over log with bad equipment no monies for toll and oil - I think that MIGHT change their minds.

Naw it won't - What the use

I just find it hard to swallow that Drivers risk their lives to move freight and they get treated as oh just a truck driver.

That pisses me off - they are out there away from their families and trying to make a living.


Be safe come home to those who you love and love you

[Unionjack67]

He tried parking it and not moving and what happened NO MORE JOB

He is now home and looking for another trucking job.

It was not just the pay out of pocket it was also fix the truck and they won't. Company mechanics said nothing wrong. Weird cause when he picked up truck was told get it into the shop soon.

Dispatch just did not care. They should be out there on the road for the same amount of hours they expect drivers to run over log with bad equipment no monies for toll and oil - I think that MIGHT change their minds.

Naw it won't - What the use

I just find it hard to swallow that Drivers risk their lives to move freight and they get treated as oh just a truck driver.

That pisses me off - they are out there away from their families and trying to make a living.


Be safe come home to those who you love and love you

The fleet manager at Hill Bros that I had was fired. She had gotten multiple complaints for several drivers. I sat so much of the time and my available time was mismanaged horribly. I ran 2000 - 2300 miles a week and very little of that was legal because of hours violations. I sat, sat, sat, and then had to run my arse off only to run out of hours.

Dispatchers and those who are over you have little clue as to the amount of our life we put into trucking. I laugh when my exwife tells me how hard her 45 hour work week was... while I'm working 16-18 hour days 6 days a week.

Since being independant I'm completely baffled why I can run 3500 legal miles a week with only broker loads but the big companies with all the contracts had a hard time getting me up to 3k.

Dispatchers and Fleet Managers should be required under mandate to have to spend atleast 3 weeks on the road with a professional, veteran driver so they know what this life is like.

I'm sorry about your husbands job. I think a lot of drivers go through several jobs before they find a company they can live with.

Good Luck...

[jdmack]

First off Unionjack67 you have no right giving advice to an EMPLOYEE to hold a load, and not make a delivery thats againest the law..... If he or she dos'nt deliver the load after he or she picks it up for any reason other than illness or an Act of god he or she could be arrested for CARGO THEFT and locked up for 10 Years, and or fined.....

An Employee dose not have any legal right or athority under any Federal, State,or Local Jurisdiction to HOLD FREIGHT HOSTAGE to achieve an objective......

If he or she has an employer that constantly sends him or her out in shotty equipment than his or her only options are as follows:

1) Contact OSHA

2) CONTACT THE EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN HIS OR HER STATE.

3) CONTACT THE FMCSA/DOT

4) REFUSE TO DRIVE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND ASK TO BE PUT IN A BETTER ONE, AND IF THERE COMPANY TRIES TO FORCE HIM OR HER BY THREAT OF LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT, OR FIRES HIM OR HER THEN THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE ABOVE AGENCIES.....

5) QUIT..... BUT BEFORE QUITTING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR COPIES OF YOUR LOG BOOKS, WITH ALL YOUR PRETRIP INSPECTIONS SHOWING THAT YOU BOUGHT THE PROBLEMS TO THE DISPATCHERS AND THE COMPANY MACANICS ATTENTION......

DO NOT GET IT TWISTED........

AN EMPLOYEE/DRIVER DOSE NOT HAVE THE SAME LEGAL OPTIONS AS AN INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATOR WITH THERE OWN ATHORITY.... THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THERE EMPLOYER......

AND IF THERE EMPLOYER IS NOT FOLLOWING THE LAWS THAT ARE SET FORTH BY FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL ATHORITIES, AND OR AGENCIES, THAN AS AN EMPLOYEE, HE OR SHE HAS ONE OR ALL OF THE ABOVE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.....

Doing it your way Unionjack67 will only cause people who listen a lot of legal problems....


DON'T GET STUCK ON STUPID, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID....

[Unionjack67]

First off Unionjack67 you have no right giving advice to an EMPLOYEE to hold a load, and not make a delivery thats againest the law..... If he or she dos'nt deliver the load after he or she picks it up for any reason other than illness or an Act of god he or she could be arrested for CARGO THEFT and locked up for 10 Years, and or fined.....

An Employee dose not have any legal right or athority under any Federal, State,or Local Jurisdiction to HOLD FREIGHT HOSTAGE to achieve an objective......

If he or she has an employer that constantly sends him or her out in shotty equipment than his or her only options are as follows:

1) Contact OSHA

2) CONTACT THE EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN HIS OR HER STATE.

3) CONTACT THE FMCSA/DOT

4) REFUSE TO DRIVE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND ASK TO BE PUT IN A BETTER ONE, AND IF THERE COMPANY TRIES TO FORCE HIM OR HER BY THREAT OF LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT, OR FIRES HIM OR HER THEN THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE ABOVE AGENCIES.....

5) QUIT..... BUT BEFORE QUITTING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR COPIES OF YOUR LOG BOOKS, WITH ALL YOUR PRETRIP INSPECTIONS SHOWING THAT YOU BOUGHT THE PROBLEMS TO THE DISPATCHERS AND THE COMPANY MACANICS ATTENTION......

DO NOT GET IT TWISTED........

AN EMPLOYEE/DRIVER DOSE NOT HAVE THE SAME LEGAL OPTIONS AS AN INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATOR WITH THERE OWN ATHORITY.... THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THERE EMPLOYER......

AND IF THERE EMPLOYER IS NOT FOLLOWING THE LAWS THAT ARE SET FORTH BY FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL ATHORITIES, AND OR AGENCIES, THAN AS AN EMPLOYEE, HE OR SHE HAS ONE OR ALL OF THE ABOVE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.....

Doing it your way Unionjack67 will only cause people who listen a lot of legal problems....


DON'T GET STUCK ON STUPID, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID....

I disagree, employees are NOT lending institutes and should not and are not required under any law to "front" money to the company they are working for.

If an employee can not make a delivery because they do not have the required funds to pay tolls or other expenses, it is solely the responsilbity of the carrier to have made sure that the employee had the funds.

You are wrong... VERY WRONG... it isn't a matter of holding freight hostage as you like to do (cheap shot)... but rather a matter of not having funds to reach the delivery location.

These are not O/O's or independants we are discussing here, this man is an employee who should never be required, under any circumstances, to be a bankroll for the company he works for.

Take your advice and shove it mr know-it-all.

[jdmack]

To solve the problem of having not to pay for your employers equipment to run, you have to be (EMPLOYEE SMART)...

Let me elaborate

As an employee you should never, never, never, never, never, ever, have money to pay for anything......

Why because they don't pay you enough....

So every time you leave, you tell your (Employer) you need money to run with.......

Tell them you spent all your money to pay on bills, or car repair, or those darn kids, something, anything, but you don't have the money to run with.

Then tell them to advance you the money needed to make the run and that you will show them the receipts when you get back so you can settel up..

Of course there will be no money left, Soooo, the differance between the receipts and the total advance should be deducted from your pay (Tax Free) this way you put the shoe on the other foot, and your not left holding the bag for paying to drive for your boss...

It may be (OLD SCHOOL), but it still works..

However never stop in mid trip to try to force an employer to pay what he or she should be paying for, it can only cause you a lot of problems.

Finally Unionjack67 I don't hold freight hostage I conduct business... It's clear by your posts you can't tell the differance.



KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

[Papa G]

good one to talk about I don't and never have paid for truck repairs but I have paid for tolls before now theres ez-pass so no one should have to pay tolls mybe here hubby spending the money and saying he pay truck cost who knows but i done this for a long time trucking that is and i never hear about this before co asking you to pay for repairs so maybe her hubby should find a new job


they call me papa g



keep your sunny side up

[Unionjack67]

good one to talk about I don't and never have paid for truck repairs but I have paid for tolls before now theres ez-pass so no one should have to pay tolls mybe here hubby spending the money and saying he pay truck cost who knows but i done this for a long time trucking that is and i never hear about this before co asking you to pay for repairs so maybe her hubby should find a new job


they call me papa g



keep your sunny side up

Unfortunately there are a lot of "shady" companies out there that expect employees to pay tolls and then be reimbursed. The good companies use EZPass and Toll Cards in Ohio and Indiana.

Of course the object of this is to cut costs. If a driver doesn't turn in receipts, which obviously happens when people lose them, the company saves money.

It's wrong, it's crooked, and it's unethical... but, they do it.

[dave78]

This is a great thread that I just have to get in on.

I could see a smaller shady company telling their drivers to pay for everything and then turn in receipts for later payment. I've worked for a small company that was kinda like that. Paid for oil, washer fluid etc. and tolls. But the kicker was that I never left the yard without having my route preplanned and knew how much money I needed for tolls and such expenses and MADE them give me a com data check for such. I ran east coast and NYC so I never took under $100 bucks with me. If I needed more I would tell them that I didn't have the cash to get through the tolls to get the return load home.

As a former cop I would have to say that refusing to deliver a load because of the company not paying you whats due, thats a really bad idea. Most states look at that as a civil matter but you not delivering a load is hijacking plain and simple. I would rather take a company to small claims court then to have a felony on my record. There are other ways around that, log every thing you purchase for that truck. Get photo copies of the receipts or ask the cashier to print out two copies of the receipt. (most will do this) If you can hand deliever your reciepts to your company and have them sign a note saying you have turned them in and for how much and what the receipts were for.

If your truck breaks down tell your company that your not going to pay for the repairs or that you don't have the cash to pay for repairs. It's better to break down under a load they won't really have a choice but to pay for the truck to get fixed ASAP. This way you won't have to sit for days waiting for them to make up their minds. Lastly the next company he plans to work for, tell him to ask what their policy is on these expenses and if they say it's up to the driver tell them no thanks my professional driving skills will be put to better use with a company that takes care of their own.

[ckwilson]

great advise, There are many drivers out of work because of felonies on their record. As for recruiting I feel companies are going to tighten the exceptence belt even more so.