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[troyjrjackson]

I believe every trucking company should get sued. And every shipper and receiver who have treated truckdrivers with harrassment, and violation of every truck drivers civil rights. I think every company should be sued and put out of business or heavily fined for discrimination. And I believe every city and state should get sued for discrimination of not allowing truck drivers to park their trucks in cities, highways and even parking lots of big malls, and shopping centers. I am for putting out of business every company and sueing every state that discriminates against a truck driver.

[TGP]

Okay, I'll bite!

First off, since you are a new driver I can understand your outlook, but as for myself I see the recruiting process in a different light.
The lies about detention, layover, holiday, and other accessorial pay I believe to be a bigger problem that the B.S. about criminal records (and you will too after working for a while), since this affects your pay. You can always find someone that will hire you, but getting paid is what it's all about. That's why you work.
I also believe that companies like JB Hunt that will fire you for idling too long should have their CEO, board of directors, "safety" department, dispatchers, and recruiters chained to the inside of a sleeper during a nice southern summer to see how they like being in a truck that will heat up to about 120 degrees (or more) during the day if the a/c isn't running. I would also like to see them try to sleep when it is just as hot at night not to mention the danger of having the windows open for any air circulation.
I also dislike the fact that there is no minimum wage for truck drivers. I can't begin to count how many times I spent an entire week in a truck and due to either breakdowns, no miles, severe weather, or whatever have brought home $300 (or less) for a week of my life. Companies should be required to pay a minimum salary of $700 a week to an OTR driver (if need be I can explain why I picked $700).
I can keep going too. I haven't said anything about alot of other things that are done to truckers by the recruiters, companies, city, state, and federal authorities, shippers, receivers, and the general public! We'll save them for other discussions!

Anyway, back to what you were complaining about.
If I owned a trucking company, my insurance might say that I can't hire you if you have been convicted of a felony in the past 5 years. Now if you HAVE been convicted more than 5 years ago, and the record is still public knowledge (has not been sealed or expunged), I should STILL be allowed to know about it since I may be entrusting you with a truck and trailer worth over $120,000, and freight that may very well be worth millions, and the time to find out that you were convicted twice of hijacking (more than 5 years ago) would be before I put you in my truck.
The other thing is that if you have been convicted of many misdemeanors in the past, chances are that I do not want you in my truck representing my company anyway. The way the law works you could have actually committed felonies, but pleaded out to misdemeanors, and your entire record would show if you have a history of criminal acts, which is why they ask if you have EVER been convicted.

So save your money and your time, it is not a bait and switch scam when they ask about criminal past because they usually will hire a guy with ONE felony (over x amount of years old), or maybe even a couple of small misdemeanors that were committed when you were young and dumb. But they usually won't (and have a right not to) hire someone that has been convicted of multiple crimes over the years.
While I do believe that people can turn over a new leaf, I (just like 99.9% of business owners) would rather not find out the hard way if someone has or hasn't turned over that new leaf!

[troyjrjackson]

Do I have to say anymore

[mde]

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[Jimdale1]

I will reply.

What are you trying to hide? why the victim mentallity? Have you researched every company? Could it be you that is the jerk? Look I have heard it all, but the ones that always scream the loudest are the ones that always had something to hide. What was your crime? If you had s with a pig, I don't want you. if you are a dishonest person, a liar, a malcontent, I don't want you.

Grow up and get over it, somebody will hire you, just not me

[TGP]

"The other thing is that if you have been convicted of many misdemeanors in the past, chances are that I do not want you in my truck representing my company anyway. The way the law works you could have actually committed felonies, but pleaded out to misdemeanors, and your entire record would show if you have a history of criminal acts, which is why they ask if you have EVER been convicted."

WOW... HOW THE *&#^ DO YOU KNOW!
HAD A COUPLE TO MANY BEERS AFTER MY FATHER DIED A LONG AND HORRIBLE DEATH AND ME CARING FOR HIM FOR 4 YEARS CHANGING DIAPERS. HE ONLY SERVED HIS COUNTRY/MILITARY 40+ YEARS.
WOW, I GUESS THE FELON'S WOULD STEP ASIDE AND TREMBLE WITH FEAR WHEN I WALKED BY!

LOST MY WIFE AND SAID THE WRONG THING TO A POLICE OFFICER. (asault on a police officer/VERBAL )
HOLY (^*&^ COUPLED WITH THIS I DOUBT I HAVE A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL OF EVEN LUBING YOUR TRUCK LET ALONE DRIVING IT.

The important word was "MANY" in the above quote.
If you have MANY convictions, neither I nor anyone else will give a damn what the circumstances are. It shows you have poor impluse control and can't handle things too well.
What happens if your mom or dad, wife or child is really sick (God forbid) and some a$$hole shipper or receiver gives you a hard time? Or a cop pulls you over on your way home or to the terminal? Does the company have to worry that you might get out of hand with the cop because of the "stress" of your mom or dad being sick? Will they have to pay to get their truck out of the impound lot because your mouth got away from you, and you said the wrong thing?

If you look up most of my postings on this board, you will see that I am staunchly pro-worker, would gladly put a lot of restrictions on business in favor of worker's rights, and it is annoying me that you are forcing me to stand up for a business practice that I don't condone, but businesses and their owners need to have some protection too. It IS their business, and you really can't tell someone who they have to hire - especially if you are talking about forcing them to hire someone that could potentially hurt their business.

The other thing you will see is that I also believe in personal responsibility. If you did something, face it, you did it. Don't make excuses, don't whine that the cop didn't like you, take responsibility for what YOU did and face the consequences.
That is one of the biggest problems in this Country. No one wants to be responsible for their actions.
You have anger issues? It's not because you're an immature a$$hole, it's because your mommy didn't breast feed you, or you were always picked last to play sports in school! You do drugs? It's not because you like to get high, nah, it's because you were the middle child and didn't get enough love!

If you were convicted that means there was ample evidence against you that proved you did the wrong thing or you thought you would be convicted so you pleaded guilty. An arrest means you were believed to be guilty, but there was NOT enough evidence to prove it, and therefore are innocent of the charges.

Next up, you keep going on about being in the military. You are not the only person that has been in the military. Just because you were in the service for X amount of time does not mean diddly. I did my time and while some of the guys I served with were the greatest guys you could ever want to meet, there were plenty of a$$holes there too. So just being in the military doesn't really mean too much. An employer has the right to look at your entire record and while service to your Country is admirable, it does not negate all of the bad things.
Besides, many people were (are?) given a choice. Either go to jail or join the military - at least when I was in the service. So how is an employer to know if you actually volunteered to serve your Country, or you only did so because you thought it would be easier than going to jail?

Oh, and by the way, please STOP YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can use capitalization for emphasis on a word or two, but to type in all capital letters is considered yelling on internet forums.

[Jimdale1]

Actually I head the recruiting efforts of a mis-sized truckload carrier. I have a job. It was easy to get lost in your aimless ramblings, so admittedly I missed a lot. Bottom line is this: it may not be your background as much as it is your attitude.

[TGP]

Sounds like you’re a bit “malcontent” also jimdale1. You complained about detention, layover, holidaypay, and other accessorial pay the heat in the summer, danger of having the windows open, no minimum wage, breakdowns, no miles, recruiters, ect.. ect..

That was not Jimdale that said those things, it was me, and I am not a moderator.
I only pointed them out because I was trying to show you that if you think getting hired is hard/bad, wait until you actually HAVE a job and find out how much fun it really is to be an OTR driver.

I gave you a great job lead that pays big bucks instead of telling you to just get over it and grow up. I’m not the moderator here you are. I know someone will hire me but like the recruiters I to am trying to screen employers. Explain “Pig” to me? Give me some advice of how to get over it moderator. And please don’t slit my throat jimdale1 I saw that in the Armstrong beheading by the Al Qaeda in Iraq and it stuck in my mind the whole time I was there. Like I said and the title to this post. “LIGHTEN UP RECRUITER, WE ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS”. How about some intelligent and mature feedback or good advice as you and I are not the only ones communicating here and I’m sure that this post might enlighten other grad’s or potential drivers to the challenges they may face if there background is not sqeaky clean. How difficult is the background investigation for HAZ/MAT? This may be the answer to all?
Time limitations on convictions, accidents, bad credit and stuff like that. If I have an International Passport and qualified for that would the requirements be similar?
ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE ANY SUGGETIONS SHORT OF “GET OVER IT AND GROW UP”?

Uh, if you believe I (TGP) am telling you to "get over it and grow up", you are missing my point.
If you don't see the advice you have already been given as "intelligent and mature", you're not paying attention.
Do you want me or anyone else to hold your little hand and say: "Awww poor baby, yes you've been treated wrongly, and it's a shame since you're such a teriffic guy", or do you want to be treated as an adult and be told that: "Hey, it sucks, but this is the way it is, and why it is, but you will get hired if you keep trying"?
There is no reset button in life. You are no longer 7 years old and can claim a "do-over". You must face what you have done - no matter what the circumstances were - and move on. Now I'm telling you grow up, and move on - not get over it but face it. It is not any of the companies' fault that you have a record, it is your own.
You will find someone to hire you, it will be a sh*tty job, but hey, you gotta pay your dues and prove yourself before you will be hired for one of the "better" jobs. Which is what you are being told when you are told to get 6 months experience and then reapply.
As far as that "great job lead" goes, I already did my time in a war zone that wasn't a war zone.
Besides, I might be willing to do the job if they would allow me to be armed. If I am going to be hired to be a target (again), I expect to be able to (again) shoot back at the very least!

[jbucklandjr69]

I am the one who deleted all the posts missing from this thread. They were repetitive and just taking up space on the forum.

No one here was disrespecting this poster or vetrans.
TGP gave this poster sound advice. He can get a job if he looks hard enough (Try SWIFT). He won't make much money and he will have to pay his dues. If these words of wisdom got under his skin so bad, What is life as a trucker gonna do for him? Maybe he should save his time, money and lots of stress and headaches and find another career. If you do choose to pursue trucking, learn from the advice of these million milers, it is priceless. Please keep your cool with your trainer cause he is paid to be hard on you and try to break you. Learn from each experience and remeber how hard it was in the first few years. That way if you make it past all the B.S. it will be even sweeter.

The truckers life is a hard life, but has sweet rewards if you enter into it fully prepared for all that comes with the lifestyle. Good Luck to you. I hope it works out well for you in the end. I thank you and all vetrans who have served our country. God Bless all of you.

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[TGP]

I'm going to leave all of this alone _ I learned my lesson trying to explain anything to some people!

The only thing I can't leave without a comment is the quote below!

They are a bit timid and rather small in stature, you might even say a bit shy.

You make them sound like Hobbits.
Go ask the Russians how "timid and shy" the Afghans are!

[mde]

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